tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post5675857920679610982..comments2023-09-27T12:44:03.592+01:00Comments on MsHedgehog: Your feet can be big red herrings swimming on the beatmsHedgehoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-46365142471792270382008-09-13T15:05:00.000+01:002008-09-13T15:05:00.000+01:00PS: Adrian and Amanda's class was Milonga Tras...PS: Adrian and Amanda's class was Milonga Traspie, so perhaps the tango 'rules' don't apply. The substance was: milonga is a fun dance, have fun. & they pointed out that in milonga you can use the same kind of musicality you'd expect in tango; milonga is more rhythmic, but the beat isn't inflexible. Their demo is on YouTube, at tanguero2x4.tghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12176074871424261732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-76917078216185525552008-09-13T14:04:00.000+01:002008-09-13T14:04:00.000+01:00Oh, it was the final "their" I misinterpreted. I t...Oh, it was the final "their" I misinterpreted. I thought you'd switched to talking about the leader's again.msHedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-7507175262953008052008-09-13T14:00:00.000+01:002008-09-13T14:00:00.000+01:00I said: "I wonder if it's the result of the leader...I said: "I wonder if it's the result of the leader 'placing' the follower's foot on the floor very precisely with the beat" - the follower's foot, not his own foot.<BR/><BR/>And, of course, as he should lead with his chest, his feet are going to follow with the momentum.tghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12176074871424261732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-71982506742241019132008-09-13T13:43:00.000+01:002008-09-13T13:43:00.000+01:00With a good leader I don't know when or where he's...With a good leader I don't know when or where he's placing his feet, unless of course they actually touch mine. It's undetectable and irrelevant.msHedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-18108651923848965572008-09-13T12:05:00.000+01:002008-09-13T12:05:00.000+01:00This is interesting! A few years ago I was watchin...This is interesting! A few years ago I was watching the BBC film about the Confiteria Ideal, and started to notice that the leaders seemed to step a fraction later than the followers. I don't think this could be deliberate, but I wonder if it's the result of the leader 'placing' the follower's foot on the floor very precisely with the beat, and as a result stepping marginally later. I wonder if followers feel that a good leader actually does place their feet like that. <BR/><BR/>& (possibly unrelated) watching close up of a well-known bass player, how his plectrum seemed to hesitate a micro milli-second before hitting the string, and how this fraction of delay seemed to drive the music forward.tghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12176074871424261732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-30933966752778236662008-09-11T19:54:00.000+01:002008-09-11T19:54:00.000+01:00@limerick, I think that is also a good description...@limerick, I think that is also a good description of what we did in that class. And yes, I agree that's what it means for where the beat is.msHedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-24943083660384581512008-09-11T15:19:00.000+01:002008-09-11T15:19:00.000+01:00Well I agree entirely on stopping trying to 'synch...Well I agree entirely on stopping trying to 'synchronise' everything. Tango isn't about synchronisation that's what waltzes and other ballroom dances are for, finding someone who is already on your wavelength.<BR/><BR/>My own preference for describing the walk is that he must push from the leg with weight through his chest into hers and down into her leg. His push must displace her leg giving him somewhere to put his foot. Of course this won't work if he has nothing to push into because she is synchronised into falling away from him.<BR/><BR/>As for the 'costa walk' (for the want of a better label) I think the push should be at its most intense on the beat. Not beat 'oh!' push, but mimicking the bellows of the bandoneon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com