tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post1145084198280665106..comments2023-09-27T12:44:03.592+01:00Comments on MsHedgehog: A class on musicalitymsHedgehoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-47112123743829122982009-04-30T14:40:00.000+01:002009-04-30T14:40:00.000+01:00@Gamecat
Reminds me of the final scene of the film...@Gamecat<br />Reminds me of the final scene of the film "Michael" where everyone's frozen in time and the angels dance around them merrily :o)ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-46517966309835582962009-04-30T13:48:00.000+01:002009-04-30T13:48:00.000+01:00Londontango - Congratulations.
As a result of you...Londontango - Congratulations.<br /><br />As a result of your last comment, you may have single-handedly rendered the floor at Negracha tomorrow night gridlocked, as hopeful idiots pause all over the place like hobbled lemmings.<br /><br />On another note....offline we need to compare partner lists. ;-)Game Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01195479103119853847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-80387557241739634462009-04-30T00:34:00.000+01:002009-04-30T00:34:00.000+01:00Yes, you are quite right - people learn different ...Yes, you are quite right - people learn different ways. I would never ever have been able to dance five nights a week, and it's unlikely I will ever want to (well maybe for one week, if it was the right week - but not for long). I know what works for me when I want to learn something, there are some strategies I can use and some I can't because my mind just doesn't work well that way, but I hope I don't delude myself that what happens to suit me would suit everybody - it patently doesn't.msHedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-48486134547623758502009-04-30T00:05:00.000+01:002009-04-30T00:05:00.000+01:00@ H
You are correct in saying that there are thing...@ H<br />You are correct in saying that there are things about dancing that take a lot of time and practice. Even I needed a lot of practice, which is why I went out 5 nights a week for 3 years. When it comes to music or musicality, that has never been an issue for me and I am able to move to music naturally, so for someone to explain it to me doesn't work for me in the same way as being shown a move. It is just a different way of learning. We all learn in different ways. Because I now have the basics down(forward, backward, side, ocho and giro)I am truly free to enjoy the music with the help of my leader, and the music has always been my focus from the beginning.<br />@ Game Cat<br />Sometimes those pauses also get used in ways that cannot be seen and only felt. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-87538239773925601182009-04-29T23:38:00.000+01:002009-04-29T23:38:00.000+01:00One more thing I noticed - some women really like ...One more thing I noticed - some women really like to make use of the in-between-steps to play. It may be a simple adornment or something more complex, but always inspired by the music. They tend to like (appropriate) pauses more then other women....it is space you allow them to express themselves in. <br /><br />Just sometimes, a woman who knows you well enough will start to throw it back at you and you will feel you have to respond. It's almost a conversation then. Very very nice.<br /><br />Now I can't wait for Friday ;-)Game Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01195479103119853847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-82066241799360415022009-04-29T23:03:00.000+01:002009-04-29T23:03:00.000+01:00Reminds me of Keeping your Feet Together or Not
...Reminds me of <A HREF="http://mshedgehog.blogspot.com/2008/02/keeping-your-feet-together-or-not.html" REL="nofollow">Keeping your Feet Together or Not</A> <br /><br />especially <br /><br /><I>"My partner tested the same movement in social dancing later and found that the other followers he danced with did not seem to know what to do with the same lead; it seemed to be a fairly common problem he had not been aware of."</I>ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-86044819707077313602009-04-29T19:36:00.000+01:002009-04-29T19:36:00.000+01:00@GC - nice. As for how many - I have no idea, and ...@GC - nice. As for how many - I have no idea, and can only speak for myself. I notice it. The technical skill she needs is nothing much more than knowing it's possible and experiencing it once or twice, it's not at all difficult to follow once you start listening for it - assuming it's there to be heard. You might be able to find them by watching for a difference between one step and another, I don't know. If they don't value it they won't do it.<br /><br />@Ghost - that would make sense<br /><br />@LT I'm different. For me, understanding it is the easy way. I get annoyed at finding I've wasted a ton of time trying to divine by instinct something that could have been clearly explained and demonstrated in less than an hour - even if I got there in the end anyway. That's Just Me. There are a lot of things about dancing that genuinely do take a lot of time and practice - I'd rather spend my time on one of those.msHedgehoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05719152265628932122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-29624504741691121592009-04-29T07:13:00.000+01:002009-04-29T07:13:00.000+01:00@ Ghost
I don't know where you put it until you ar...@ Ghost<br />I don't know where you put it until you are dancing and then you just do it. See, I am totally useless at trying to explain these things. By the time I had a lesson on musicality, I was already intuitively dancing. I am sooooo glad that I am a follower and don't really have to think about these things too much!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-62130190162105231242009-04-28T18:01:00.000+01:002009-04-28T18:01:00.000+01:00@Londontango
What I particularly like about MsH's ...@Londontango<br />What I particularly like about MsH's description is I believe it also applies to choosing to dance to an instrument or singer ie where do you put the "middle" of each step?ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-82002385794940891292009-04-28T07:46:00.000+01:002009-04-28T07:46:00.000+01:00I have done musicality classes and they seem to go...I have done musicality classes and they seem to go over my head. Probably because my way of learning is different. My dancing is intuitive and I try to fit in with my leader. There is no thought involved, only feeling. Feeling for my partner and feeling for the music.<br />I think if one can understand the musicality and learn how to work on the beat, well that is a start, but Tango music is very complex and one might want to dance to an instrument or the singer which adds a completely different nuance to the dance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-42573743748964342542009-04-28T01:29:00.000+01:002009-04-28T01:29:00.000+01:00Nice simple description that can actually be used ...Nice simple description that can actually be used in practice :o)<br /><br />@Gamecat<br />Sadly <I>"it wasn't necessary to be told twice. But I did need telling once"</I> seems to sum it up well. Most people aren't told the once. So leaders don't lead it and followers don't experience it (or they don't know it exists and figure it was a lead for double-time etc that went wrong).<br /><br />The one interesting exception seems to be nuevo. It's not too hard to lead a woman who's done salsa to start wiggling her hips in different ways. They do seem to appreciate it (at least it can be hard getting some of them to stop!)ghostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8391293127288856260.post-50548801160378251152009-04-28T00:17:00.000+01:002009-04-28T00:17:00.000+01:00Hmm. Interesting.
Someone (a woman) once describe...Hmm. Interesting.<br /><br />Someone (a woman) once described to me the interlude between stepped-on beats as "the journey" and that thinking only of the "destination" (i.e. the step) half-blinds us to fully expressing the music.<br /><br />You can draw out a step, toe caressing the floor; sweep majestically through; or firmly but carefully pad the floor. There is so much texture one can add, inspired by the music and the mood of the moment.<br /><br />My question is - do many women value this? And if so, what technical skill would she need, assuming a competent leader, to listen to and respond to this? And of course how can I find them?Game Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01195479103119853847noreply@blogger.com